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Podcast#13 | Leading productive and engaged remote teams

Once again this snippet comes from our podcast with Marcie & Eduardo and they talk us through how to foster productive and engaged teams when leading remotely. They draw on their experiences in establishing a 2000 seat contact centre at Shopify, which is 95% remote.

Marcie Murray held the role of Director of Support at Shopify when they established their contact centre and grew the team from 95 to 2000.

Eduardo Nofeuntes is the Founder of The Agile Contact Centre and The Agile 11 and has helped leaders all over the world transform their contact centres.

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Podcast #Ep 5 Deanne Martin | How to build an agile recruitment process and amplify the voice of your contact centre

"I’m proud to say we’ve brought the right people into customer service who can sit at the table and talk about how we solve a UX problem or sit with HR to create new flexible working policies. When you start thinking outside of your people being just transactional to being capable to lean in and solve problems the whole landscape of you’re talent pool changes to being broader than just customer service”

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In this episode we are joined by Deanne Martin, the Head of CX at Seek.

This is a great conversation with a truly humanistic leader who talks to us about two hot topics for any contact centre.

1. The perennial challenge that is recruitment. Deanne has embraced the key tenets of agile in her recruitment process by involving the people that do the work in the decision making.

2. How to elevate the role of the contact centre to amplify the voice of the customer. This is an inflection point for any contact centre looking to play a leading role in driving the CX strategy.

I think you’ll find that Deanne is one of those rare non-conformists who has backed herself to be different with her approach to leadership and we hope this inspires you to find the non-conformist within too.

Podcast #3 | Understanding failure demand to transform your cost centre to a value centre

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“Taking this approach to serving customers, by addressing the root cause of the reason they are calling, becomes the job of the front line, its way more fulfilling than just answering calls.

And when you do this you create a culture of continuous improvement, people are more engaged, stay longer and customers get more value”

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Show notes

What is Failure Demand and why it is important in reducing the effort it takes for customers to interact with your organisation and Arnie shares a personal example (1:00)

Discuss the difference between Value and Failure Demand (4:30)

How to start to tackling Failure demand – identifying the type of demand you are receiving and the benefit in engaging your people to drive this process from the start (6:15)

Arnie shares an example of Failure Demand, the pain for the customer and how simple it can be to find improvements quickly (9:45)

We share an example of Value Demand and why it’s good for the bottom line to focus on both Failure and Value demand and the opportunity for the contact centre to deliver more value in the form of marketing, sales and cost reduction (15:30)

Grab a pen! we to the practicalities of how to put in place a continuous improvement system to address Failure demand, identifying, prioritising, delivering and then tracking it over time (19:53)

The mindset required as a leader to make this work and the operating rhythm to support it and how to engage the rest of the business to support the improvement initiatives (24:11)

How a focus on Failure Demand will change the view the contact centre in your organisation from a cost centre to a value creation centre (26:35)

References: John Seddon and The Vanguard Method for contact centres https://vanguard-method.net

Podcast #2 Lauren Reid

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"This was one of the highlights of my career, I was having the most fun with this radical change...we created a fantastic team with an amazing culture and a great brand”  

Welcome to Podcast #2 featuring special guest Lauren Reid, formerly the Head of Direct Service at MLC Life Insurance now the Manager of Member Services at ESSSuper.

In this conversation we cover:

  • Harnessing the collective strengths of your people to improve CSAT and engagement through collaboration and shared accountability.

  • How different personal and leadership styles can flourish in an agile environment.

  • The importance of telling the story of your agile journey to the rest of your organisation to engage and influence, in particular, how agile contact centres demonstrate customer value to stakeholders to get things done.

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Show notes

-Structure of the teamthe environment at MLC at the time the work began (1:15)

-Giving the team a voice to improve the customer experience and how to set the environment up to support this (4:34)

-Lauren discusses her personal style and how the changes being made challenged her leadership style, confidence and what she learnt about being vulnerable (7:13)

-Learning that the agile principles can be applied in many different ways depending on the goals you want to achieve and trying to implement a solution from another contact centre isn’t necessarily going to be the right solution for you (10:19)

-Understanding that all personalities and skills have a place in an agile contact centre, from creative to very structured types (14:02)

-Servant leadership and the importance of direction and purpose and how this change in mindset changed the way they leaders supported their teams to give them a voice (15:55)

-How this fostered an environment of collaboration and teamwork which lead to peer to peer coaching to leverage the strengths among the team (18:17)

-This leads on to a discussion around shared KPI’s and we deep dive what the ‘System of Work’ is. Lauren talks about removing AHT as a KPI and what that meant for forecasting and budgets (21:00)

-Lauren discusses the pros and cons of CSAT vs. NPS as a metric and the shift to using CSAT as a shared KPI. How this improved the customer experience and lead to greater ownership of the customer which resulted in a huge improvement in CSAT and engagement (26:43)

-How the teams were empowered to coach and support each to improve CSAT and build a strong culture of teamwork (33:02)

-A detailed discussion about how the team told their agile story to the rest of organisation and promoted the new ways of working. How they used metrics everyone understood and how this was driving real business value. Giving the teams a role to run tours and present to other teams at on what they were doing and how this engaged other teams to support initiatives to improve the customer experience (36:27)

- Lauren wraps up by talking about what to do if you were thinking about embarking on a journey to reinvent her contact centre and the leadership mindset to adopt to support you in doing this (50:57)

Podcast #Ep 1 - Anand Rego

This is Podcast#1 featuring special guest Anand Rego, Head of Contact Centres at Open Universities Australia.

Anand talks about how this journey has transformed his leadership style, how his teams have created an environment of continuous improvement, shared accountability and a daily focus on their Purpose.
We get into the detail around how he has practically applied agile ways of working and my highlight, how they used shared KPI's to tackle a problem in the system of work leading to poor student outcomes.

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Show notes

- Setting the scene for what lead to contact centre needing to reinvent itself (1:24)
- The realisation that the way they were working wouldn't get them to were they needed to be and the first time they heard about a new way of working (6:24)
- Anand talks about the structure of the team, their contact channels and the decision to move away from individual KPI's (10:50)
- The importance of vision, purpose and values to connect people to the organisation and helping them make the right decision for the customer (16:56)
- How people can find a way to game the system if the system is not aligned to the purpose (17:52)
- How his life experience and previous roles shaped his approach to leadership and leap of faith to become a servant leader (23:25)
- What Anand has done to support and sustain his change in style. Including visualisation of the work, stand-ups, sprint planning and the power of the Retro (27:06)
- Arnie jumps in explain the Retro for this playing along at home and Anand gives an example of how Team Leaders use Retro's to get in the moment feedback from their teams (36:24)
- We get into the way to set up self-organising teams around the customer use the right metrics and visualisation (46:38)
- Using the agile principles and mindset to deliver a telephony upgrade in record time - 8 weeks from start to finish (48:22)
- The benefits the team are seeing in staff turnover and engagement and the changes they made to salaries and KPI's to create shared accountability by putting the customer outcomes before those of individuals (1:03:50)
- Anand talks about "6x multiple" to consider when setting targets for people that features in a book called Primed to Perform and the link to Cobra farms (1:06:24)
- How shared sales KPI's are getting better outcomes for students than ever before and even happier people (1:08:47)
- Anand finishes with a great example of how he has developed the agility in his leadership to seek out opportunities to have his own assumptions tested (1:15:12)

Links to books and articles from the show
Article: Why should anyone be led by you?
Book: Primed to Perform: How to Build the Highest Performing Cultures Through the Science of Total Motivation by Neel Doshi & Lindsay McGregor